Today is the auspicious disappearance day of three great acaryas in the Gaudiya Vaisnava-sampradaya: Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, Srila Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami, and Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami. We shall read about Srila Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami from Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, which was written by Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami.
Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Antya-lila, Chapter Thirteen: â€œPastimes with Jagadananda Pandita and Raghunatha Bhatta.â€
etha tapana-misra-putra raghunatha-bhattacarya
prabhure dekhite calila chadiâ€™ sarva karya
During this time, Raghunatha Bhattacarya, the son of Tapana Misra, gave up all his duties and left home, intending to meet Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Accompanied by a servant carrying his baggage, Raghunatha Bhatta started from Varanasi and traveled along the path leading through Bengal.
In Bengal he met Ramadasa Visvasa, who belonged to the kayastha caste. He was one of the kingâ€™s secretaries.
PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada
The words visvasa-khanara kayastha indicate a secretary or clerk belonging to the kayastha caste. Kayasthas were usually secretaries to kings, governors, or other important persons. It is said that anyone working in the government secretariat at this time was a kayastha.
sarva-sastre pravina, kavya-prakasa-adhyapaka
Ramadasa Visvasa was very learned in all the revealed scriptures. He was a teacher of the famous book Kavya-prakasa and was known as an advanced devotee and worshiper of Raghunatha [Lord Ramacandra].
Commenting on the word parama-vaisnava, Srila Bhaktivinoda Ã–hakura says that anyone who desires to merge into the existence of the Lord cannot be a pure Vaisnava, but because Ramadasa Visvasa was a great devotee of Lord Ramacandra, he was almost a Vaisnava. In those days, no one could distinguish between a pure Vaisnava and a pseudo Vaisnava. Therefore Ramadasa Visvasa was known as a Vaisnava because he worshiped Lord Ramacandra.
asta-prahara rama-nama japena ratri-dine
sarva tyajiâ€™ calila jagannatha-darasane
Ramadasa had renounced everything and was going to see Lord Jagannatha. While traveling, he chanted the holy name of Lord Rama twenty-four hours a day.
When he met Raghunatha Bhatta on the way, he took Raghunathaâ€™s baggage on his head and carried it.
Ramadasa served Raghunatha Bhatta in various ways, even massaging his legs. Raghunatha Bhatta felt some hesitation in accepting all this service.
â€œYou are a respectable gentleman, a learned scholar, and a great devotee,â€ Raghunatha Bhatta said. â€œPlease do not try to serve me. Just come with me in a happy mood.â€
Ramadasa replied, â€œI am a sudra, a fallen soul. To serve a brahmana is my duty and religious principle.
â€œTherefore please do not be hesitant. I am your servant, and when I serve you my heart becomes jubilant.â€
Thus Ramadasa carried the baggage of Raghunatha Bhatta and served him sincerely. He constantly chanted the holy name of Lord Ramacandra day and night.
Traveling in this way, Raghunatha Bhatta soon arrived at Jagannatha Puri. There he met Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu with great delight and fell at His lotus feet.
Raghunatha Bhatta fell straight as a rod at the lotus feet of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Then the Lord embraced him, knowing well who he was.
Raghunatha offered respectful obeisances to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu on behalf of Tapana Misra and Candrasekhara, and the Lord also inquired about them.
â€œbhala ha-ila aila, dekha â€˜kamala-locanaâ€™
aji amara etha kariba prasada bhojanaâ€
â€œIt is very good that you have come here,â€ the Lord said. â€œNow go see the lotus-eyed Lord Jagannatha. Today you will accept prasada here at My place.â€
The Lord asked Govinda to arrange for Raghunatha Bhattaâ€™s accommodations and then introduced him to all the devotees, headed by Svarupa Damodara Gosvami.
Thus Raghunatha Bhatta lived with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu continuously for eight months, and by the Lordâ€™s mercy he felt increased transcendental happiness every day.
He would periodically cook rice with various vegetables and invite Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu to his home.
Raghunatha Bhatta was an expert cook. Whatever he prepared tasted just like nectar.
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu would accept with great satisfaction all the food he prepared. After the Lord was satisfied, Raghunatha Bhatta would eat His remnants.
When Ramadasa Visvasa met Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the Lord did not show him any special mercy, although this was their first meeting.
Within his heart, Ramadasa Visvasa was an impersonalist who desired to merge into the existence of the Lord, and he was very proud of his learning. Since Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the omniscient Supreme Personality of Godhead, He can understand the heart of everyone, and thus He knew all these things.
Ramadasa Visvasa then took up residence in Jagannatha Puri and taught the Kavya-prakasa to the Pattanayaka family [the descendants of Bhavananda Raya].
asta-masa rahiâ€™ prabhu bhatte vidaya dila
â€œvivaha na karihaâ€ baliâ€™ nisedha karila
After eight months, when Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu bade farewell to Raghunatha Bhatta, the Lord flatly forbade him to marry. â€œDo not marry,â€ the Lord said.
Raghunatha Bhattacarya had become a greatly advanced devotee while still unmarried. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu could see this, and therefore He advised him not to begin the process of material sense gratification. Marriage is a concession for people who are unable to control their senses. Raghunatha, however, being an advanced devotee of Krsna, naturally had no desire for sense gratification. Therefore Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu advised him not to enter the bondage of marriage. Generally a person cannot make much advancement in spiritual consciousness if he is married. He becomes attached to his family and is prone to sense gratification. Thus his spiritual advancement is very slow or almost nil.
COMMENT by Giriraj Swami
We had the good fortune to receive a similar instruction from Srila Prabhupada. We were in Gorakhpur, and Srila Prabhupada had received the latest issue of Back to Godhead. The issue carried an article that I had written in Boston before I went to India. The subject of the article was â€œThe Genuine Spiritual Master.â€ Somehow Srila Prabhupada was pleased with the article and asked to see me. At that time I was quite young in Krsna consciousness, and Srila Prabhupada didnâ€™t generally call for me. Anyway, he said, â€œI have read your article, and it was very nice. You should write.â€ He actually invited me to travel with him to train me how to write. Then he said, â€œDo you ever think of getting married?â€ I said no. Then Srila Prabhupada said, â€œBetter to remain brahmacari, and after some time I will give you sannyasa.â€ He said that the demands of the senses are like itches and that if you try to scratch the itches, the itching will get worse. The best thing is to tolerate the itches, and if you tolerate, gradually the itching will subside. Not only one demand, but the demands for eating, for sleepingâ€”all of themâ€”if we indulge them they become aggravated. But if we tolerate them, gradually they subside. Thus Srila Prabhupada mercifully instructed me.
â€œvrddha mata-pitara yaiâ€™ karaha sevana
vaisnava-pasa bhagavata kara adhyayanaâ€
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said to Raghunatha Bhatta, â€œWhen you return home, serve your aged father and mother, who are devotees, and try to study Srimad-Bhagavatam from a pure Vaisnava who has realized God.â€
One should note how Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, advised Raghunatha Bhattacarya to learn Srimad-Bhagavatam. He advised him to understand Srimad-Bhagavatam not from professional men but from a real bhagavata, a devotee. He also advised Raghunatha Bhatta to serve his mother and father because they were both Lord Caitanyaâ€™s devotees. Anyone who wishes to advance in Krsna consciousness must try to serve the devotees of Krsna. As Narottama dasa Ã–hakura says, chadiya vaisnava-seva nistara peyeche keba: â€œWithout serving a self-realized Vaisnava, no one has ever been released from the materialistic way of life.â€ Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu would have never advised Raghunatha Bhatta to serve ordinary parents, but since his parents were Vaisnavas, the Lord advised him to serve them.
One might ask, â€œWhy shouldnâ€™t ordinary parents be served?â€ As stated in Srimad-Bhagavatam (5.5.18):
gurur na sa syat sva-jano na sa syat
pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat
daivam na tat syat na patis ca sa syan
na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum
â€œOne who cannot deliver his dependent from the path of birth and death should never become a spiritual master, a relative, a father or mother, or a worshipable demigod, nor should such a person become a husband.â€ Everyone naturally gets a father and mother at the time of birth, but the real father and mother are those who can release their offspring from the clutches of imminent death. This is possible only for parents advanced in Krsna consciousness. Therefore any parents who cannot enlighten their offspring in Krsna consciousness cannot be accepted as a real father and mother. The following verse from the Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu (1.2.200) confirms the uselessness of serving ordinary parents:
laukiki vaidiki vapi ya kriya kriyate mune
hari-sevanukulaiva sa karya bhaktim icchata
â€œOne should perform only those activitiesâ€”either worldly or prescribed by Vedic rules and regulationsâ€”which are favorable for the cultivation of Krsna consciousness.â€
Concerning the study of Srimad-Bhagavatam, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu clearly advises that one avoid hearing from a non-Vaisnava professional reciter. In this connection Sanatana Gosvami quotes a verse from the Padma Purana:
sravanam naiva kartavyam
sarpocchistam yatha payah
â€œNo one should hear or take lessons from a person who is not a Vaisnava. Even if he speaks about Krsna, such a lesson should not be accepted, for it is like milk touched by the lips of a serpent.â€ Nowadays it is fashionable to observe Bhagavata-saptaha and hear Srimad-Bhagavatam from persons who are anything but advanced devotees or self-realized souls. There are even many Mayavadis who read Srimad-Bhagavatam to throngs of people. Many Mayavadis have recently begun reciting Srimad-Bhagavatam in Vrndavana, and because they can present the Bhagavatam with word jugglery, twisting the meaning by grammatical tricks, materialistic persons who go to Vrndavana as a matter of spiritual fashion like to hear them. All this is clearly forbidden by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. We should note carefully that since these Mayavadis cannot personally know the meaning of Srimad-Bhagavatam, they can never deliver others by reciting it. On the other hand, an advanced devotee of the Lord is free from material bondage. He personifies Srimad-Bhagavatam in life and action. Therefore we advise that anyone who wants to learn Srimad-Bhagavatam must approach such a realized soul.
Here Lord Caitanya gave two instructions to Raghunatha Bhattacarya. First He instructed him to go back and serve his parents because they were Vaisnavas. Serving Vaisnavas is most important for spiritual advancement. Srila Prabhupada remarks that Lord Caitanya would have never advised Raghunatha Bhatta to return home to serve ordinary parents, and thus Srila Prabhupada quoted the verse gurur na sa syat sva-jano na sa syat.
At one time I was fortunate to receive a similar instruction from Srila Prabhupada in Bombay. After we acquired Hare Krishna Land from the landlord, Srila Prabhupada was sitting in his room (he was living in a straw hut near Hare Krishna Land) with Mahamsa Prabhu and me. Then Srila Prabhupada quoted the same verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam: â€œNo one should become a spiritual master, no one should become a relative, no one should become a father, no one should become a mother, and no one should become a husband unless he can deliver his or her dependents from repeated birth and death.â€ And Srila Prabhupada gave some examples. He said that the duty of the son is to defend the father if the father is attacked but that when Lord Nrsimhadeva attacked Hiranyakasipu, Prahlada Maharaja made no effort to defend him. Rather, he glorified the attacker, Nrsimhadeva. But Prahlada Maharaja was not at fault, because his father was not a real father, because he was not helping him to become liberated from the repetition of birth and death. Similarly, it is the duty of the son to obey the mother, but when Kaikeyi told Bharata to sit on the throne, he disobeyed. But he was not at fault, because Kaikeyi was not a real mother, because she was not helping him to become liberated from the repetition of birth and death and to engage in devotional service. Similarly, it is the duty of the wife to obey the husband, but when the Vedic brahmanas told their wives not to go to Krsna and Balarama in the forest, they disobeyed. But they were not at fault, because their husbands were not real husbands, because they were not helping them to become Krsna conscious. Similarly, it is the duty of the disciple to obey the spiritual master. But when Sukracarya ordered Bali Maharaja not to surrender everything to Lord Visnu and not to keep his promise to Visnu, Bali Maharaja disobeyed him. But he was not at fault, because his spiritual master was not a real spiritual master. Then Srila Prabhupada said to Mahamsa Prabhu and me, â€œYou have left your mothers and fathers, but they are not your real mothers and fathers. So you have done the right thing.â€
Still, we offer ordinary respect to superior relatives. And of course, for the service of guru and Krsna, a devotee may also serve ordinary people and relatives. In any case, the presence of a pure devotee in a family liberates the entire family.
As far as the second instruction, Lord Caitanya told Raghunatha Bhatta to hear and learn Srimad-Bhagavatam from a devotee. Svarupa Damodara Gosvami gave a similar instruction, that one should learn the book Bhagavata from the person bhagavata. In 1970, when the first groups of devotees came to India from America, Srila Prabhupada instructed Gurudasa Prabhu to go to his quarters at Radha-Damodara, go through all of his old papers, and keep only the ones that were appropriate to be keptâ€”and that the ones that were not appropriate, which pertained to his householderâ€™s life, should be destroyed. Gurudasa Prabhu invited me to accompany him. We went through Srila Prabhupadaâ€™s old papers, and we found so many letters that he had written. One was to a man who had organized Bhagavata Week in Bombay and had invited Srila Prabhupada to attend. Srila Prabhupada had written back that the Bhagavata should be heard from liberated souls who are free from pretentious religiosity, and not from Mayavadis, who have no access to the â€œgreat scriptureâ€ and who mislead the innocent public. Srila Prabhupada had informed the organizer, â€œTherefore I have not only refrained from attending the function myself but have advised many others not to attend as well.â€ Srila Prabhupada was so bold and forthright and fearless: abhaya.
â€œpunarapi eka-bara asiha nilacaleâ€
eta baliâ€™ kantha-mala dila tanra gale
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu concluded, â€œCome again to Nilacala [Jagannatha Puri].â€ After saying this, the Lord put His own neck beads on Raghunatha Bhattaâ€™s neck.
Then the Lord embraced him and bade him farewell. Overwhelmed with ecstatic love, Raghunatha Bhatta began to cry due to imminent separation from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
After taking permission from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and all the devotees, headed by Svarupa Damodara, Raghunatha Bhatta returned to Varanasi.
In accordance with the instructions of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he continuously rendered service to his mother and father for four years. He also regularly studied Srimad-Bhagavatam from a self-realized Vaisnava.
Then his parents died at Kasi [Varanasi], and he became detached. He therefore returned to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, giving up all relationships with his home.
As previously, Raghunatha remained continuously with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu for eight months. Then the Lord gave him the following order.
â€œamara ajnaya, raghunatha, yaha vrndavane
tahan yana raha rupa-sanatana-sthane
â€œMy dear Raghunatha, on My order go to Vrndavana and live there under the care of Rupa and Sanatana Gosvamis.
bhagavata pada, sada laha krsna-nama
acire karibena krpa krsna bhagavanâ€
â€œIn Vrndavana you should chant the Hare Krsna mantra twenty-four hours a day and read Srimad-Bhagavatam continuously. Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, will very soon bestow His mercy upon you.â€
eta baliâ€™ prabhu tanre alingana kaila
prabhura krpate krsna-preme matta haila
After saying this, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu embraced Raghunatha Bhatta, and by the Lordâ€™s mercy Raghunatha was enlivened with ecstatic love for Krsna.
At a festival Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu had been given some unspiced betel and a garland of tulasi leaves fourteen cubits long. The garland had been worn by Lord Jagannatha.
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave the garland and betel to Raghunatha Bhatta, who accepted them as a worshipable Deity and preserved them very carefully.
Taking permission from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Raghunatha Bhatta then departed for Vrndavana. When he arrived there, he put himself under the care of Rupa and Sanatana Gosvamis.
rupa-gosanira sabhaya karena bhagavata-pathana
bhagavata padite preme aulaya tanra mana
When reciting Srimad-Bhagavatam in the company of Rupa and Sanatana, Raghunatha Bhatta would be overwhelmed with ecstatic love for Krsna.
asru, kampa, gadgada prabhura krpate
netra kantha rodhe baspa, na pare padite
By the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he experienced symptoms of ecstatic loveâ€”tears, trembling, and faltering of the voice. His eyes filled with tears, his throat became choked, and thus he could not recite Srimad-Bhagavatam.
His voice was as sweet as a cuckooâ€™s, and he would recite each verse of Srimad-Bhagavatam in three or four tunes. Thus his recitations were very sweet to hear.
When he recited or heard about the beauty and sweetness of Krsna, he would be overwhelmed with ecstatic love and become oblivious to everything.
Thus Raghunatha Bhatta surrendered fully at the lotus feet of Lord Govinda, and those lotus feet became his life and soul.
Actually, Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami arranged for the construction of the Radha-Govinda temple in Vrndavana, which is the most beautiful and most famous of all the temples in Vrndavana. So maybe he will also give us some mercy to build a temple here.
nija sisye kahiâ€™ govindera mandira karaila
vamsi, makara kundaladi â€˜bhusanaâ€™ kariâ€™ dila
Subsequently Raghunatha Bhatta ordered his disciples to construct a temple for Govinda. He prepared various ornaments for Govinda, including a flute and shark-shaped earrings.
gramya-varta na sune, na kahe jihvaya
krsna-katha-pujadite asta-prahara yaya
Raghunatha Bhatta would neither hear nor speak about anything of the material world. He would simply discuss Krsna and worship the Lord day and night.
vaisnavera nindya-karma nahi pade kane
sabe krsna bhajana kare,â€”ei-matra jane
He would not listen to blasphemy of a Vaisnava, nor would he listen to talk of a Vaisnavaâ€™s misbehavior. He knew only that everyone was engaged in Krsnaâ€™s service; he did not understand anything else.
Raghunatha Bhatta never did anything harmful to a Vaisnava. In other words, he was never inattentive in the service of the Lord, nor did he ever violate the rules and regulations of a pure Vaisnava. It is the duty of a Vaisnava acarya to prevent his disciples and followers from violating the principles of Vaisnava behavior. He should always advise them to strictly follow the regulative principles, which will protect them from falling down. Although a Vaisnava preacher may sometimes criticize others, Raghunatha Bhatta avoided this. Even if another Vaisnava was actually at fault, Raghunatha Bhatta would not criticize him; he saw only that everyone was engaged in Krsnaâ€™s service. That is the position of a maha-bhagavata. Actually, even if one is serving maya, in a higher sense he is also a servant of Krsna. Because maya is the servant of Krsna, anyone serving maya serves Krsna indirectly. Therefore it is said:
keha mane, keha na mane, saba tanra dasa
ye na mane, tara haya sei pape nasa
â€œSome accept Him, whereas others do not, yet everyone is His servant. One who does not accept Him, however, will be ruined by his sinful activities.â€ (Cc Adi 6.85)
Srila Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami â€œwould not listen to blasphemy of a Vaisnava, nor would he listen to talk of a Vaisnavaâ€™s misbehavior. He knew only that everyone was engaged in Krsnaâ€™s service.â€ But in the purport Srila Prabhupada comments that the Vaisnava acarya has to train his disciples according to the regulative principles and that if he sees that they are violating principles of Vaisnava behavior, he has to correct them. Even if the spiritual master is a maha-bhagavata, when he acts as spiritual master and takes the responsibility to train disciples, he has to discriminate between proper and improper behavior. And if the disciples are behaving improperly he must point out the defects and correct them.
When Srila Prabhupada first met his guru maharaja, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ã–hakura, he thought that from beginning to end this man was simply criticizingâ€”criticizing the fruitive workers, criticizing the mental speculators, criticizing the impersonalists. But Srila Prabhupada remarked that later he realized that what his guru maharaja was saying was actually correct. Sadhu means to cut. The sadhu must cut the false attachments of the people, and therefore he may have to criticizeâ€”not out of envy or malice as we may criticize, but only for the sake of cutting peopleâ€™s false attachments and bringing them to the proper standards of devotional service.
Once, in Indore, Srila Prabhupada was strongly criticizing some popular religious leaders there. One of the gentlemen in the room became very upset and said, â€œYou should not criticize. You should be panditah sama-darsinah. You should see everyone equally, and you should not criticize.â€ Srila Prabhupada replied, â€œThat is a very high platformâ€”maha-bhagavata. He doesnâ€™t criticize anyone, because he sees everyone is already serving Krsna.â€ And then Srila Prabhupada discussed the verse (Bg 5.18) panditah sama-darsinah:
brahmane gavi hastini
suni caiva sva-pake ca
â€œThe humble sages, by virtue of true knowledge, see with equal vision a learned and gentle brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater.â€
Prabhupada said that a learned brahmana is supposed to be virtuous and that a dog is supposed to be sinful. So to see a brahmana and a dog equally means that one doesnâ€™t distinguish between pious and sinful activities. He sees that everyone is serving Krsna. â€œBut,â€ Srila Prabhupada said, â€œI am not on that stage. I say that because you donâ€™t surrender to Krsna, you are sinful.â€
So even the uttama Vaisnava, when he preaches, has to act as a madhyama Vaisnava and point out the faults and correct them. But if one is not in a position to actually instruct others for their benefit, then he should act like Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami. He should avoid material talks in general and blasphemy of the Vaisnavas in particular, and he should remain absorbed in his service to Krsna.
mahaprabhura datta mala mananera kale
prasada-kadara saha bandhi lena gale
When Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami was absorbed in remembrance of Lord Krsna, he would take the tulasi garland and the prasada of Lord Jagannatha given to him by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, bind them together, and wear them on his neck.
mahaprabhura krpaya krsna-prema anargala
ei taâ€™ kahilun tate caitanya-krpa-phala
Thus I have described the powerful mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, by which Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami remained constantly overwhelmed with ecstatic love for Krsna.
In this chapter I have spoken about . . . how Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami achieved ecstatic love of Krsna by the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
ye ei-sakala katha sune sraddha kariâ€™
tanre krsna-prema-dhana dena gaurahari
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu [Gaurahari] bestows ecstatic love for Krsna upon anyone who hears these topics with faith and love.
sri-rupa-raghunatha-pade yara asa
caitanya-caritamrta kahe krsnadasa
Praying at the lotus feet of Sri Rupa and Sri Raghunatha, always desiring their mercy, I, Krsnadasa, narrate Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, following in their footsteps.
Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports to Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Antya-lila, Thirteenth Chapter, describing Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvamiâ€™s achieving love of Krsna.
Are there any questions or comments?
Devotee: In this country there are Bhagavata kathas, and sometimes people invite us to do the katha also. Should we accept the invitation to go and chant or speak?
Giriraj Swami: We should be careful, because we are quite well established in Mauritius now. We should rather hold our own programs and invite people to our programs. In the beginning when Srila Prabhupada was in India, he accepted invitations to the Vedanta Sammelan in Amritsar and the Gita Jayanti in Gorakhpur because people did not know us. And by attending such programs people came to know us. But as soon as we became established, Prabhupada stopped accepting such invitations. In fact, when I went to Madras one Mr. Ratnam Iyer had his own organization called Astika Samaj, and he offered to take full responsibility to arrange Srila Prabhupadaâ€™s program in Madras; but in the end he didnâ€™t really help, because ultimately he was a Mayavadi. He didnâ€™t actually like us. When I informed Srila Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada wrote back that it is never good to have to depend on others for our preaching. We should make our own arrangements.
Giriraj Swami: Exactly. They call us just to decorate their program, to attract people to their program, and to try to get our stamp of approval. But actually, we may not approve of their program, so we should be careful. People will try to use us for their own purposes. Once, maybe Guru-Gauranga Prabhu, Srila Prabhupadaâ€™s disciple in Switzerland, arranged for Srila Prabhupada to meet the head of the World Health Organization. Srila Prabhupada was so intelligent and perceptive that when he agreed to meet the person he said that no photos should be allowed. Srila Prabhupada explained to us the reason: The W.H.O. was trying to introduce birth control in Third World countries, and they considered India to be difficult because people in India knew contraceptive methods and abortion to be sinful. â€œSo they will want to take my photo and use it to make propaganda that I approve of the World Health Organizationâ€™s program.â€ And actually it happened. At the end of the meeting they wanted to have their photos taken with Srila Prabhupada. So, we are very authorized, and people want to use us to gain credibility for their programs. But we may not actually approve of their programs. So we should be careful how we associate with them and how we are perceived to be associated with them.
Krsnacandra dasa: Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave different instructions to Raghunatha Bhatta at different times. First He instructed him to serve his devotee parents and to study Srimad-Bhagavatam from a realized devotee, and then He told him to go to Vrndavana and chant Hare Krsna and take shelter of Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami. So, the spiritual master gives instructions to his disciples according to time, place, and circumstances, and so the spiritual master may change his instruction.
Giriraj Swami: Yes, that is true. Once, on a morning walk on Juhu Beach, Srila Prabhupada was discussing surrender, and he was pointing out various defects in supposed surrender. One defect is that the disciple will receive an instruction from the spiritual master, and later, when the spiritual master gives a different instruction, the disciple will object, â€œBut previously you told me such-and-such.â€ Srila Prabhupada said that surrender means you accept the latest instruction, the immediate instruction. Once, Srila Prabhupada gave an instruction to a disciple, and then later he gave him a different instruction. The disciple said, â€œSrila Prabhupada, previously you told me that, and now you are telling me this.â€ Srila Prabhupada replied, â€œIf you accepted my authority then, why donâ€™t you accept it now?â€ So we have to be careful not to pick and choose what instruction we like and what instruction we donâ€™t like.
Mukta-purusa dasa: Lord Caitanya advised that one hear Srimad-Bhagavatam from a realized soul. But how can ordinary people know who is a realized soul? Sometimes professional reciters speak very ornamentally, and they are very attractive to ordinary people.
Giriraj Swami: First, we must know the constitutional position of the living entity. Jivera â€˜svarupaâ€™ hayaâ€”krsnera â€˜nitya-dasaâ€™: the living entityâ€™s constitutional position is to be an eternal servant of Krsna. One who is acting as an eternal servant of Krsnaâ€”in other words, one who is a devoteeâ€”is self-realized. He has realized that he is the eternal servant of Krsna.
How can ordinary people know who is self-realized? They have to be educated. Either in person or from books, they have to hear from devotees to be educated in the science of self-realization. If someone wants to choose where to study, in which university, one will make inquiries, and only after careful consideration will he decide which university to attend. He will inquire: What is the reputation of the school? Who are the professors? What are the results of the graduates? What do people say? And thatâ€™s just for a few years of academic education. So if we take so much care to decide where to go for a few years of academic education, then how much more care should we take where we go for spiritual education, which will guide us in our eternal spiritual life. We have to inquire and learn.
But many people are not very serious or sincere; they just want to make a show that they are very pious, very religious. And they may want to be entertained. But if someone is sincere and serious, he or she will try to understand the science of spiritual life from devotees. And ultimately one will come to the conclusion that one must learn from devotees.
In one lecture, Srila Prabhupada said that we take knowledge from Krsna and Krsnaâ€™s representatives and that because we take knowledge from Krsna we know that the knowledge is perfect and we donâ€™t need to go to anyone else for knowledge. Then he told how one disciple, Acyutananda Prabhu, was in Vrndavana when a famous Mayavadi sannyasi who gave Bhagavata-saptahas, Swami Akhandananda, was also there. Someone asked Acyutananda Prabhu if he had met Swami Akhandananda, and Acyutananda replied, â€œNo. Why should I meet him? I have nothing to learn from him.â€ Srila Prabhupada was very happy, very proud. Because we are getting knowledge from Krsna and Krsnaâ€™s representatives in disciplic succession, we donâ€™t have anything to learn from anyone else.
Devotee: What happens to the relationship between spiritual master and disciple after death?
Giriraj Swami: In principle, the relationship between the spiritual master and the disciple is eternal. If the disciple is not completely successful to go back to Godhead at the end of this life, he or she gets the chance to continue the process of devotional service in the next life and follow the same instructions that he or she received from the spiritual master in this life. So service to the spiritual master is eternal. And the spiritual master will arrange to guide the disciple until he is completely successful and goes back home, back to Godhead.
Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami ki jaya!
Sri Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami ki jaya!
Sri Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami ki jaya!
October 23, 1996
Hare Krishna Land